john mccain already called that issue a red flag. because you know, it is just -- there's always -- it is not for everybody, right on their side? >> yeah. that makes me crazy. whether you're gay whether you're straight, whatever label you want to put on yourself we're all people. we're all human beings. we all deserve a place in this society. this division of society you know i guess i'm old enough to remember the civil rights movement and the women's movement and all of that. we're all people. mccain, he's smarter than that. i think that's a delaying tactic and i think that the american public are going to blow right by him. he ought to talk to young people. they don't get it. >> stephanie: i'm still waiting for him to apologize for his fearmongering on what would happen if don't ask, don't tell were overturned. joe, i'm hopeful this time, as are you and as long as there's people in the trenches fighting the good fight always great to talk to you and your folks. i love the united food and commercial worker's union that you lead and